Thursday, October 28, 2010

Whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven

Mat 18:18 "Assuredly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. ... What exactly does it mean to you???
October 28 at 10:56pm · · ·
    • Lance Caldwell This Means that Jesus has "defanged" and "declawed" Satan, and put him under our feet!! In the name of Jesus we have authority!
      October 28 at 11:05pm · · 9 people
    • La-tosiha Simms Amen
      October 28 at 11:13pm · · 3 people
    • Maverlene Tesiorna Gonzales You have the Authority & Power All IN THE NAME OF JESUS! You are His child! John 1:12-You also have the Right! What JESUS has, You also have! Now, you can do Greater things because Jesus sits at the Right hand of the Father¤**
      October 28 at 11:18pm · · 7 people
    • Merrill Thompson
      The Matchless Discovery
      by Dietrich Bonhoeffer

      Each individual will make a matchless discovery. He will be able to cease from constantly scrutinizing the other person, judging him, condemning him, putting him in his particular place where he can gain ascendancy over him and thus doing violence to him as a person. Now he can allow the brother to exist as a completely free person, as God made him to be. His view expands and, to his amazement, for the first time he sees, shining within his brethren, the richness of God’s creative glory. God did not make this person as I would have made him. He did not give him to me as a brother for me to dominate and control, but in order that I might find within him the Creator. Now the other person, in the freedom with which he was created, becomes the occasion of joy, whereas before he was only a nuisance and an affliction.

      God does not will that I should fashion the other person according to the image that seems good to me, that is, in my own image; rather in his very freedom from me God made this person in His image. I can never know beforehand how God’s image should appear in others. That image always manifests a completely new and unique form that comes solely form God’s free and sovereign creation. To me the sight may seem strange, even ungodly. But God creates every man in the likeness of His Son, the Crucified. After all, even that image certainly looked strange and ungodly to me before I grasped it.

      Strong and weak, wise and foolish, gifted or ungifted, pious or impious, the diverse individuals in the community are no longer incentives for talking and judging and condemning, and thus excuses for self-justification. They are rather cause for rejoicing in one another and serving one another.

      Dietrich Bonhoeffer, in his book Life Together
      October 28 at 11:39pm · · 2 people
    • Sandra Mapson As Jesus is (right now), so are we (right now) in this world! It means LET God do the work thru us (loosed) on earth as it is in heaven!! If you're bound on earth, then it will held (shut in) in heaven! I had that revealation of that verse. God's so good!!
      October 29 at 1:29am · · 5 people
    • Pang William
      Rom 8:29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.

      He is the Conqueror but we are made more than conquerors in Him! Rom 8:37 Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. What more to bind?
      October 29 at 2:59am · · 2 people
    • Beverly Landis Love that piece from Dietrich Bonhoeffer....wow such truth!!
      October 29 at 8:00am · · 1 person
    • Brandon J. Horner
      evil exists, it must be bound wherever it is found, sometimes we unknowingly release with the words of our mouth, and unsaved people release evil willingly, people that practice witchcraft release all sorts of evil, it is like an invisible scale, what is released more good or evil, the Spirit has been poured out on all flesh, is why unsaved people flourish in riches too, it also means heaven and earth are as one, so let us enter in to the mystery of Christ, don the armor, seek the gifts of the Spirit, and enter the spiritual war that rages over good and evil
      October 29 at 8:03am · · 3 people
    • Donna Tremblay
      BILL JOHNSON from "When Heaven Invades Earth: A Practical Guide to a Life of Miracles"

      ...that is the realm of the kingdom of God. God, in response to our cries brings his world into ours.
      Conversely, if it is not free to exist in heaven, it must be bound here. Again, through prayer we are to exercise the authority given to us. "I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth, SHALL HAVE BEEN loosed in heaven." Notice the phrase SHALL HAVE BEEN. The implication is that we can only bind or loose here what has already been bound or loosed there. Once again our model is heaven.
      Is anyone starving in heaven? Of course not. This request is a practical application of how His dominion should be seen here on earth - abundant supply. The abuses of a few in the area of prosperity does not excuse the abandonment of the promises of God to provide abundantly for His children. It is his good pleasure to do so. Because there is a perfect provision in heaven, there must be the same here. Heaven sets the standard for a Christian's material world - enough to satisfy the desires born of God and ENOUGH ' for every good work".
      October 29 at 12:28pm · · 3 people
    • Beverly Landis amen sister!!! this is a wonderful piece!!!
      October 29 at 12:32pm · · 2 people
    • Pang William Heb 4:9 There remains therefore a rest for the people of God. 10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His. 11 Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience. ... His rest is all we must bind!!!
      October 29 at 8:07pm · · 3 people
    • Donna Tremblay BIG AMEN, Pang, rest is the heart of God for us, he SO-O-O-O-O-O wants us to get this!
      October 30 at 9:39am · · 2 people
    • Pang William
      Amen Donna and thanks to everyone here to take time to respond to my post. Let me share my revelation. I'd been pondering on Mat 18:18 on and off over a year. Asking that is there more I must bind here? I sure don't want to miss anything. I asked many but I got no satisfied answer. Some even said to go out and bind the world for their lives counted on us...

      Just a few days ago, once again I came across this very verse and following verse 19 saying if any two of you shall agree in His name, shall be done. Well... that stirred my thought again and you know sometimes it stayed at the back of your mind the whole day... in the evening a clear small voice reminded me the title of a teaching by Andrew Wommack... "You've already got it!". Immediately... like a bulb lighted up... I got it! It is not about what we do but what we know. What we know shall transform us to bear fruits in its seasons.

      Just yesterday, I asked Daddy again... If I already got it, then what? Daddy is really good... Heb 4:11 popped up right in front of me when I opened my e-Sword. "Heb 4:11 Let us labor therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief." If there is anything more to bind... is that Rest! Rest is that path in Christ! It Is Finished!

      To fulfill Mat 18:19 I have it posted here... Mat 18:19 "Again I say to you that if two of you agree on earth concerning anything that they ask, it will be done for them by My Father in heaven." ... In Jesus' name, Amen!
      October 30 at 3:24pm ·
    • Brandon J. Horner if it is not free to exist in heaven, then it has to be bound here.....evil exists it has to be bound
      October 30 at 6:54pm ·
    • Brandon J. Horner
      Revelation 21:22I did not see a temple in the city, because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. 23The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp. 24The nations will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their splendor into it. 25On no day will its gates ever be shut, for there will be no night there. 26The glory and honor of the nations will be brought into it. 27(Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful), but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life.
      October 30 at 6:58pm ·
    • Brandon J. Horner
      Revelation 21:5He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” Then he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”

      6He said to me: “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life. 7He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son. 8But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”
      October 30 at 6:59pm ·
    • Brandon J. Horner i wonder what happens when every one who ever inhabit a flesh body will bow their knee and confess that Jesus is Lord
      October 30 at 7:01pm ·
    • Pang William Brandon ???
      October 30 at 8:09pm ·
    • DAwn Rubin
      Pang...awesome!!! I have always wondered about htat verse also...
      I didn't repsond earlier becasue I really wasn't sure the answer...I love when our daddy shares revealtions with us and then we can share with others!!! ...isn't it amazing how most itnerespret that verse to meano DO WORKS...but then when we ask our daddy what it means it always points back to the CROSS and entering His REST!!! hallelujaha!!!
      October 30 at 8:56pm · · 1 person
    • DAwn Rubin man always wants to make it about man and man's efforts..

      the Father wants us to Rest in His Finished Work!! Halleluajh!
      October 30 at 8:57pm · · 1 person
    • Pang William Thanks Dawn... We are different, very different, absolutely different from many many other brothers and sisters... We know we are His sons and daughters, we know who is the Grace, we see His Grace without veiled... That's why we don't receive the kind of revelation as those of the law... They hear from the flesh, we hear from the Spirit! Hallelujah!
      October 30 at 9:25pm · · 1 person
    • DAwn Rubin
      amen Pang--when I first received the revealtion of Grace, I was still under law in certain areas...I thought it was my responsibilty to love others...my husband assured me that as long as I was still TRYING..I was under law...my husband assured me that I can DO NOTHHING...
      I even felt pressure to HAVe MORE FAITH...my husband, again, reassured me that I CAN DO NOTHING...
      Now, I choose to REST in HIM and not TRY....when I REST in HIM, Everything else flows efforltessy...
      whenever we take our eyes of oursleves and give HIM credit for EVERYTHING...this Glorifies HIM!!! Hallelluajah!!!
      October 30 at 9:32pm · · 1 person
    • DAwn Rubin GRACE=undeserved unmerited favor!!!
      Jesus has freely given us..undeserved unmerited Favor!!
      October 30 at 9:48pm · · 1 person
    • Pang William Ya Dawn... You are blessed to have a husband like that :)) I wish my wife were like your husband... Oops she might be reading... hehe
      October 30 at 9:58pm · · 1 person
    • Brandon J. Horner
      the word addresses both the Spirit and the flesh,
      the Spirit has been perfected and is seated with Jesus, is why we need the Holy Spirit to lead us and guide us into all understanding, flesh is subject to death and decay, has to be transformed from perishable to imperishable....i understand grace perfectly, i need it most assurredly, but if grace/Jesus is all that we preach it causes people to fall....just like the old faith movement, wonderous and mighty miracles and more happened back then, but nothing will stand on it's own, not God, not Jesus, am trying to get people to see we need 3 as in the Godhead....Jesus is grace and truth, Holy Spirit is power and truth, Christ means anointed......God is Spirit....anointing is unseen and Holy Spirit uses the Lion in us so we are not above creator, we lay flesh down as in self, as a Lamb, a thorn in the flesh as paul said i believe is what he was preaching he totally believed but he knew his flesh had to die, so to die is gain, i love radically preaching grace, i love joseph prince, but somehow we must unite the body of Christ.....Jesus redeemed the Father, the Sons of God and Man...and the true Mother earth, for it is from dust we were made,
      in genesis after God rested the Lord God took over, putting himself above God, we have to somehow share what we have found......for a house divided shall fall.....we are God's house His temple, the student made perfect can be as the Master teacher...not greater....i love u guys and i love grace, when our flesh is truly perfected we will no longer been seen, but by only those with a new name on there forehead...
      enoch walked with God and was no more..elijah
      was caught up.......paul was the greatest apostle and called himself least, if one believes he is saved and just can wait on Jesus' return is ok, but i choose war against evil......for evil is a spirit and cannot be redeemed.....it is about selflessness as Jesus was, so that the whole world might be saved...as long as there is one soul lost we must seek it out for Jesus sake, remember noah was righteous by grace, abraham righteous by faith, Jesus made all righteous by obeying all the commandments...how can we win all souls in the body of Christ Jesus if we do not unite......no evil exists in Heaven, but it does here on earth......
      October 30 at 10:15pm ·
    • Brandon J. Horner
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      grace is not new and not a gospel sandy, so quit accusing me.....paul preached radical grace and his message was awesome, look and see what else paul preached on......the gospel is about Jesus not grace, let the Holy Spirit be your teacher and not man, then confirmation shall come from someone in the body of Christ



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      Under law, "works" is our part. Under Grace , Faith is our part!



      Our part is to believe. Like Father Abraham- we are justified by faith, without the Law. Since we know for certain that he was 430 years before the Law. Even as we are after t...he Law is abolished-2Cor.3!See More



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      Brandon J. Horner and was 430 years between old and new testaments, God was silent, as in resting.....i understand sandy, we have to find a way to unite the whole body of Christ.....i love grace and faith and peace.....but i hate evil, is in only that kind of use would i ever use hate.....evil is a spirit, that cannot be redeemed....in the beginning all creatures with the breath of life in them were not for food, until Lord God showed up........all creatures have spirits, only one's with knowledge of good and evil have a soul....



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      Ironically it is you with thsnake oil you grace pervert; You need to pick which side of the fence you are on, Heb. 8:7,2Cor.3:13bThe Law is abolished, we are under Grace not Law, dont mix covenants.Your completely way off track, thinking t...hat you are so wise and understanding, teaching things which you ought not."Whose mouths must be stopped.''



      Who are you to warn of snake oil!!!?



      Grace is the gospel The new covenant is GOOD NEWS! Its all about Jesus making it all possible. Your understanding is darkened by your flesh, and works mentality, always focusing on what WE DO, instead of what GOD DONE. ...on the CROSS!See More



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      Under law, "works" is our part, to be righteous. Under Grace , Faith is our part!



      Our only part is2 believe. Like Father Abraham- we are "justified by faith", without de Law! Since we know 4sure dat he was 430 years before the Law. Even as w...e are after de Law is abolishd-(2Cor.3:13b, Col.2:14,Eph.3:15.) Praise Jesus we're Under Grace not Law-Rom.6:14. Grace is de Gospel! -Heb.8:6See More



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      Brandon J. Horner your words are so law and works i almost forgot about grace



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      Brandon J. Horner new wine cannot be put in old wineskins they will burst......now old wine with new wine in



      new wineskins works just fine and good....u speak of 1 thing i speak of 3



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      Brandon J. Horner silly man grace and faith were in old, just lacking a lil love from the father who made himself above God



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      Brandon J. Horner why u keep posting on my posts silly man...u won't allow me to post on yours...silly man



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      October 30 at 11:46pm ·
    • Donna Tremblay
      Pang,
      I do agree with you on your comment on the rest. Even confirmed to you. God gave me a revelation on rest that was so strong in the spirit that I felt almost outside of my body, it is not an explanable thing but He confirmed, as He did to you, that rest is His number one message along with grace for our world today. This I am sure of.
      I do sometimes bind the devil in my home only because one day years and years ago I did this after I had a morning of worship in my home. I was worshipping God with passion, with music and joy and just having a great time in the Lord. Then I bound everything not of God and cast it out of my home. Just then in the downstairs apartment I heard shouting, an unmarried couple lived there. Then a loud slam followed and the male left (forgot his name). He got in his vehicle and left the property. A few hours later I was leaving the building and had gotten into my car. As I was getting my key out he was returning to the apartment. The window was open and it was a warm sunny day. As I attempted to say hello he just stared at me, and began to walk slowly. He stared as if he had seen a ghost. He looked frightened, his face was aghast. Seeing that he looked so alarmed I continued to make small talk, smile and be friendly, but this was all to no avail, he walked gingerly around me and my car and headed for the door to his apartment all without saying much back to me.
      What had happened?
      Something happened.
      The Holy Spirit on me was visible to him in some form.
      Did the binding and casting out have anything to do with his leaving and the expression on his face coming back?
      Well, perhaps and perhaps not.
      I know from talking to others that the unsaved can see the Spirit on us when we are in the presence, I have heard missionaries tell such stories.
      Also, I sat under a man of God who has a great healing mantle and he taught that when 2 agree those 2 can be you and Jesus or you, Jesus, the Father and the Holy Spirit that is 4. So we always have 2 or more to agree with us.
      Bill Johnson says that we can only bind what is already bound in heaven because the word says SHALL HAVE BEEN BOUND, so Satan and his demons are cast out of heaven, but are not bound
      yet according to the word. Also healing, prosperity, and destiny are bound in heaven from the work of the cross. If those things are bound in heaven already our mouth is important to bring things to pass, we are kings and priests unto God, and kings decree, priests change things by the use of their power, so do we. Bill seems to imply that we bind the positive rather than the negative. Bind health, bind restoration, etc. The devil is not bound, but he can be commanded off our whatever, if it is health, I command the dis-ease out of my body and I tell it that it must listen and obey me, I tell it that it is banished from my body very very firmly, even with a moment's anger toward it, Andrew Wommack says, go ahead, get angry with the demon and send it out, but immediately after I thank God for the cross and my health that I have. I don't see the rest as just doing nothing when disease is ravaging someone. I take authority over it, the restored authority purchase for me Gal 3:13.
      Rest is key in our attitude, knowing what is completed in heaven we decree that here for us, this is not works, works is striving to achieve what is already done. The part that I sometimes think we miss is that there is action we must perform, faith without works (action) is dead. We rest in our performing, we just decree what is.
      That is my understanding so far...
      October 31 at 12:16am · · 1 person
    • Donna Tremblay
      Brandon,
      First, I want to say that I know that you have a heart for the Lord and his word, I can see that and that is beautiful.
      One thing in your conclusion above you said:
      "as long as there is one soul lost we must seek it out for Jesus sake, remember noah was righteous by grace, abraham righteous by faith, Jesus made all righteous by obeying all the commandments"
      Are you saying that Jesus made US all righteous or that he was made righteous by obeying? And are you talking about obeying in going to the cross? Please just give a short answer.

      Grace is this age's message from God. We are ALREADY united in Him, unity is not doctrinal agreement, if we wait until that happens in the body of Christ then we will not see unity, it will not be apparent. God is not in our intellect, we bear with one another in love. Grace is the message today because so much law is crippling the body, it is in a performance mode and produces nothing that is being performed outside of what is already done. God wants to set us free from performing what is finished. It is finished.
      Shalom blessings, brother.
      October 31 at 12:42am · · 2 people
    • Brandon J. Horner
      it is finished when we disappear to all non believers.....Jesus made us righteous by fulfilling
      ...and how did He fulfill...grace is message in part, gospel not.....God is our intellect..again exactly noah was righteous by grace abraham righteous by faith, Jesus by fulfilling made us all righteous and how did He do that......42“Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done.” 43An angel from heaven appeared to him and strengthened him. 44And being in anguish, he prayed more earnestly, and his sweat was like drops of blood falling to the ground.c

      45When he rose from prayer and went back to the disciples, he found them asleep, exhausted from sorrow. 46“Why are you sleeping?” he asked them. “Get up and pray so that you will not fall into temptation.” ..grace.. old age new age or age to come......faith old age or to come with new age....Lord God Almighty and Lamb of God, now Jesus Christ Holy Spirit and Man.....
      if u lift one above the other that one will fall, all 3 equally God and one
      October 31 at 1:14am · · 1 person
    • Donna Tremblay
      Brandon, What I meant is our intellect alone is not enough. I disagree that "God is our intellect" strongly disagree. When we know everything, then there is no mystery, we have created a God that fits into our definition of what God is, a definable god. He is bigger than all that I can fathom. He is not my intellect although he died to renew my thinking, it was important, how I would use my thinking ability, but that is not God himself. Knowledge puffeth up, when given too much credit. Knowledge without the Holy Spirit is the letter that killeth.
      The rest of what you are saying is very unclear, your writing is hard to follow, my friend, although I am trying. You are trying to say there is a balance, okay, but there are times when God emphasizes something because there is a need to do so. There is a need to do so, so we emphasize grace not to negate the trinity and it's importance, but to bring a message to a works ridden, striving brotherhood/sisterhood that needs LIFE and life more abundantly. We can't get it by striving, working for it performing for it, that is the old and many many don't see that simple thing. Grace and rest are on God's heart. Check with him to see if he will confirm that to you.
      October 31 at 1:31am ·
    • Pang William Brandon, sorry I just don't get what you are saying. Is it just me or anyone else? Well... at least Donna can reply you :)) Cheers brother... can it be made simpler?
      October 31 at 1:49am ·
    • Michael Kaminski
      The verse means, like Rodney Dangerfield said when taking his final exam in 'Back to School', "I ain't taking sh*t from no one." And that no one is the devil - that's the binding side.
      On the loosing side, we have the authority to release blessing & the Holy Spirit from the Father.
      October 31 at 5:22pm ·